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Yeah, so it certainly looks like this story has serious legs. Being talked about on MSM, front page of Drudge, and they are admitting these emails are genuine. Bumping this info for whomever finds our quiet little corner of the intarwebz.
LINK TO THE EMAILS
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Well I always felt like I had to differ with the likes of Alex Jones when it came to global warming/climate change. I mean, all the evidence is out there, right? I've been hearing since the 80s how we are ruining the earth, (which I think we are, but that's a side issue) and how all this nasty CO2 is just killing the planet. The debate is much too big to go into here, but the way I see, it's a grey area. Meaning, you don't have to be black or white on the issue. You don't have to polarize and say "It's the sun that causes change." or, "It's all because of man made emissions.." It's likely a mixture of both, but with the solar portion likely being WAY more of a driving factor. The planet had quite a rich CO2 atmosphere millions of years ago, there were hordes of vegetarian dinosaurs lumbering around eating all the mass of plantlife that existed.
Anyway, my opinion might really be set to sway if all this crapload of emails becomes verified. This could be major news. Right now I remain skeptical, but posting here anyway because I think it at least deserves a look.
Also don't forget the Al Gore Photoshop
Examiner.com
The University of East Anglia's Hadley Climatic Research Centre appears to have suffered a security breach earlier today, when an unknown hacker apparently downloaded 1079 e-mails and 72 documents of various types and published them to an anonymous FTP server. These files appear to contain highly sensitive information that, if genuine, could prove extremely embarrassing to the authors of the e-mails involved. Those authors include some of the most celebrated names among proponents of the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).
The FTP link first appeared on a blog called The Air Vent. The blog's owner, identified as "Jeff Id", downloaded the file, examined it, and posted a brief summary on his blog. Another commenter, identified as "Steven Mosher," passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's Climate Audit blog and to another blog, The Blackboard, run by a blogger identified as "Lucia." Most recently, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog titled "Watts Up With That?" mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.
Commentary on all the blogs involved has been brisk, except, oddly enough, at The Air Vent, where only seven comments have been received.
The FTP server is in a Russian domain and uses the anonymous FTP protocol, which does not require a pre-registered user account or password for downloading. The file is named FOI2009.zip, an apparent reference to US Public Law 89-554, 80 Stat. 383, the Freedom of Information Act.
And now for some excerpts:
From: Phil Jones
To: Gil Campo
Subject: Re: Twentieth Century Reanalysis preliminary version 2 data – One other thing!
Date: Tue Nov 10 12:40:26 2009
Gil,
One other good plot to do is this. Plot land minus ocean. as a time series. This should stay relatively close until the 1970s. Then the land should start moving away from the ocean
One final thing – don’t worry too much about the 1940-60 period, as I think we’ll be changing the SSTs there for 1945-60 and with more digitized data for 1940-45.
Cheers
Phil
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From: Phil Jones
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008
Mike,
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t
have his new email address.
We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!
Cheers
Phil
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University of East Anglia
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